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Kaskade & Sekou Andrews Interview (Full Episode) | The Tim Ferriss Show (Podcast)
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DJ Kaskade and poet Sekou Andrews share insights on music, creativity, and self-belief.
Key Insights
Kaskade transitioned from collecting records to actively creating electronic music by throwing his own parties.
Focusing on melodic songwriting became Kaskade's unique differentiator in the electronic music scene.
Sekou Andrews emphasizes self-belief and embracing one's 'ridiculousness' as a path to success.
The 'soul selfie' is a concept Sekou Andrews uses to remind oneself of their inherent power and might.
Both artists highlight the importance of passion, self-honesty, and continuous learning in their crafts.
Family support, particularly from spouses, played a crucial role in enabling both artists' careers.
KASKADE'S JOURNEY INTO ELECTRONIC MUSIC
Kaskade's musical journey began with a passion for collecting records, particularly house and New Wave. His initial foray into active music creation stemmed from moving to Utah, where the local music scene lacked appeal. To experience the music he loved, Kaskade started throwing his own parties, which led to DJing gigs and eventually acquiring studio equipment. This hands-on approach, born out of a desire to create the music he wanted to hear, marked his transition from a passive listener to an active producer.
FINDING A NICHE: MELODY OVER RHYTHM
Initially, Kaskade's music was sample-heavy and rhythmic, aligning with trends of the time but failing to stand out. A pivotal moment occurred around 2000 in San Francisco, where he observed the emergence of more melodic electronic music. Recognizing a gap in the market, Kaskade shifted his focus to songwriting and incorporating stronger melodies. This strategic pivot differentiated him, making his music more 'evergreen' and earning him industry recognition, leading to increased touring and career momentum.
THE BUSINESS OF MUSIC AND NOTE-TAKING HABITS
Kaskade acknowledges that just creating music isn't enough; understanding the business side is crucial. His early work with OM Records in San Francisco forced him to learn about promotion and artist branding. He maintains a rigorous note-taking habit, using notebooks to capture ideas, daily tasks, and song inspirations. These notes serve as a organized system for reflection, planning, and artistic development, helping him refine his craft and remember key moments, like the inspiration for his song '400 AM'.
SEKOU ANDREWS' PHILOSOPHY OF AWESOMENESS
Sekou Andrews, a former schoolteacher turned two-time National Poetry Slam Champion, champions the concept of 'awesomeness' as a core principle for success. He defines it not as perfection, but as embracing one's authentic self, including their 'ridiculousness.' This philosophy empowers individuals to overcome challenges by accessing their inherent power and believing in their ability to navigate life's difficulties, encouraging them to be the 'extra cup' for others.
THE 'SOUL SELFIE' AND TRANSFORMING NARRATIVES
The 'soul selfie' is a powerful mental exercise Sekou Andrews employs to reinforce self-worth and capability. It involves a physical gesture and affirmation: 'I am awesome.' This practice is designed to combat moments of self-doubt and to remind individuals of their 'mighty,' 'beautiful,' and 'powerful' nature, especially during tough times. By reframing internal dialogue and focusing on personal strengths, individuals can transform their narratives and approach challenges with renewed confidence and purpose.
EMBRACING RIDICULOUSNESS AND POETIC VOICE
Andrews encourages embracing what might seem 'ridiculous' to others, such as unconventional career paths like being a poet. He argues that true awesomeness lies in living one's passion, even if it's a 'dead art form.' His unique style, 'poetic voice,' blends inspirational speaking with spoken word poetry, creating a new user experience for spoken word art. This approach allows him to inspire others to tell their own stories and believe in their potential, fostering clarity of purpose amidst external skepticism.
ROLE OF FAMILY AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS
Both Kaskade and Sekou Andrews emphasize the profound impact of family support on their careers. Kaskade credits his wife for her unwavering belief and financial support during his early years, acting as his business manager for a decade. Similarly, Andrews views his wife as the model of success, handling primary parenting responsibilities due to his extensive travel. This strong foundation and partnership were essential for navigating the demanding and often unstable nature of their respective creative fields.
PRACTICAL ADVICE FOR ASPIRING CREATORS
For those aspiring to enter the electronic music scene, Kaskade advises identifying and honing one's core passion—be it writing, producing, or DJing. He stresses the importance of self-honesty and maximizing one's best skills. Andrews' advice centers on self-belief and resilience, urging individuals to embrace their unique paths, like his own journey with spoken word poetry. Both artists underscore the necessity of continuous learning, adaptability, and a robust support system for long-term success.
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Kaskade started collecting records and DJing in Chicago before moving to Utah, where he began throwing parties and eventually bought studio equipment to start producing his own music. He later moved to San Francisco to work with Om Records, learning the business side of the music industry.
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Author of 'The Graveyard Book', an audiobook praised by Tim Ferriss.
Media mogul, for whom Sekou Andrews has presented privately.
Author of 'Vagabonding', a book that influenced Tim Ferriss's 'The 4-Hour Work Week'.
Former US President, for whom Sekou Andrews has presented privately.
Host of The Tim Ferriss Show, who deconstructs world-class performers. He also mentions the 4-Hour Work Week and 4-Hour Body books.
A two-time National Poetry Slam Champion and former school teacher, known for his impressive poetic voice and performances for notable figures.
Frontman of The Cure, praised by Kaskade as a brilliant songwriter.
A book by Tim Ferriss for which 99designs was used to create cover prototypes.
A book about cyber terrorism that Kaskade recently gifted to a friend.
An audiobook by Neil Gaiman, highly recommended by Tim Ferriss as his favorite and the only one he wanted to re-listen to immediately.
A book by Ralph Potts that had a significant impact on Tim Ferriss's life and informed 'The 4-Hour Work Week'.
A book by Tim Ferriss, the basis for which was informed by 'Vagabonding'.
Company where Kaskade's wife worked, providing financial support early in his music career.
A platform for audiobooks, recommended by Tim Ferriss for its selection and free trial offer.
A small boutique label in San Francisco that Kaskade reached out to early in his career and was hired by.
A platform where Sekou Andrews first performed and impressed Tim Ferriss.
A musical act whose album 'Homework' is considered by Kaskade as a defining record for the genre.
A band whose frontman, Robert Smith, is cited by Kaskade as a brilliant songwriter.
The university Kaskade attended in Utah.
A local band in San Francisco that Kaskade saw, whose electronic sound inspired him to focus more on melodic music.
An album by Daft Punk that Kaskade mentions but is not as much of a fan of as 'Homework'.
An album by Daft Punk, considered by Kaskade as a defining record for the electronic music genre.
A popular song by Kaskade, inspired by a moment at 4 AM after a show, which led to writing phrases about sleeplessness and gliding.
Website for Tim Ferriss's newsletter, offering exclusives and 'F Bullet Friday'.
A platform for design services, recommended by Tim Ferriss for logos, websites, and more. He used it for book cover prototypes.
Kaskade's official website where fans can find more about his work and music.
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