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2025 Predictions: Tech, Business, Media, Politics!

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The All-In Podcast hosts make bold predictions for 2025 across politics, business, tech, and media, with lively debate.

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2025 predictions span political winners (fiscal conservatives, young candidates, Trump/centrism) and losers (Putin, pro-war neocons, progressivism).

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Business winners are expected from robotics/autonomous hardware, AI-driven big businesses, and dollar-denominated stablecoins.

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Potential business losers include government service providers, Big Tech (Mag 7 concentration risk), and old defense/aerospace companies.

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Major business deals anticipated include auto industry consolidation, hardware manufacturing buildouts, and potential tech/delivery service mergers.

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Contrarian beliefs range from a banking crisis and rise of socialism to AI fundamentally changing productivity and potentially leading to superintelligence.

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Key assets to watch in 2025 include high-bandwidth memory, credit default swaps (as insurance), and Chinese tech stocks, while enterprise software and traditional auto/real estate may underperform.

POLITICAL WINNERS AND LOSERS

The podcast kicks off with predictions for 2025's biggest political winners. Chamath identifies fiscal conservatives, citing a need for austerity to curb government waste. Freeberg anticipates a rise in young, 'resident' candidates, marking a generational shift away from the 'old guard.' Gavin predicts a win for centrism and Trump, observing a trend of Gen X and elder millennials gaining influence. For political losers, Gavin foresees a significant defeat for Putin, exacerbated by European rearmament and a tougher stance from a potential Trump administration. Freeberg targets pro-war neocons, expecting them to clash with figures like JD Vance and Elon Musk. Chamath predicts progressivism will be the biggest loser, pointing to expected electoral shifts in Canada, Germany, France, and the UK as repudiations of identity politics.

BUSINESS WINNERS AND LOSERS EMERGE

The discussion shifts to business, with Freeberg highlighting 2025 as the 'year of the robot,' citing companies like Unitree and the potential of humanoid robots and autonomous systems. Gavin agrees, emphasizing the continued importance of AI, particularly FSD and large businesses leveraging AI for a competitive edge, also predicting compute shortages. Chamath's bold prediction is for dollar-denominated stablecoins, believing they will challenge the Visa/Mastercard duopoly and have significant transaction volume. Potential business losers include general government service providers, as Gavin suggests agencies might scrutinize spending. Chamath identifies concentrated risk in the 'Mag 7' stocks, foreshadowing a potential market drawdown. Freeberg points to traditional defense and aerospace companies facing challenges due to shifts in tech-driven defense budgets and inefficiencies.

ANTICIPATED DEALS AND MARKET SHIFTS

Looking at major business deals, Chamath predicts a collapse of traditional auto OEMs, leading to consolidation, with Tesla positioned strongly. Freeberg anticipates significant funding for hardware manufacturing buildouts in the US, driven by a need for onshore production of autonomous and robotic systems. Gavin sees a title wave of M&A activity, driven by pent-up demand, and specifically mentions a potential big deal involving Intel and the quiet emergence of independent frontier AI labs. Jason predicts major partnerships in the 'age of autonomy' between tech giants like Amazon, DoorDash, Uber, and Tesla, potentially leading to super apps.

CONTRARIAN VIEWS ON ECONOMICS AND SOCIETY

The 'most contrarian belief' segment explores unconventional predictions. Chamath posits a banking crisis, citing the immense burden of US debt at current interest rates. Gavin anticipates a year of greater than 5% real GDP growth due to AI and deregulation, potentially resembling the late 90s boom, and also predicts frontier AI labs will keep their best models internal. Freeberg controversially predicts a dramatic rise in socialist movements in the US, arguing that rapid economic shifts and inequality, amplified by AI, will leave segments of the population behind, fueling demand for socialist policies despite recent election narratives. Gavin's contrarian take is that OpenAI may decline significantly, losing its lead and its non-profit to for-profit transition could fail.

BEST AND WORST PERFORMING ASSETS

Predictions for the best-performing assets in 2025 include high-bandwidth memory (HBM) as demand for GPUs outstrips supply, according to Gavin. Chamath suggests buying credit default swaps as insurance against unforeseen defaults. Freeberg bets on Chinese tech stocks and ETFs, believing a potential US-China 'deal' and domestic economic drivers could lead to a rebound. For worst-performing assets, Gavin and Chamath identify the 'software industrial complex' – large, inefficient enterprise software companies – as vulnerable to AI-driven alternatives that are cheaper and more potent. Freeberg reiterates challenges for vertical SaaS and points to legacy car companies and real estate as facing continued headwinds due to oversupply and affordability issues.

TRENDS, MEDIA, AND FINAL PREDICTIONS

Anticipated trends include regulatory changes to 'kick the can down the road' on debt management, according to Chamath. Freeberg foresees major announcements regarding nuclear power buildout in the US, driven by deregulation and energy demands. Gavin expects AI to accelerate dramatically in 2025, progressing on three axes: pre-training, inference compute, and reasoning, potentially leading to Artificial Super Intelligence. In media, Jason anticipates chaotic shifts in legacy media outlets like the Washington Post and LA Times. Chamath looks forward to declassified files from the Trump administration, potentially revealing secrets about JFK, Epstein, and more. Gavin is excited for '1883' and '1923' season 2. Final predictions include poly market bets on Trump's deportation numbers, the concentration of 'Mag 7' stocks, cloud revenue growth leaders, and federal debt levels.

Common Questions

Chamath predicts fiscal conservatives will be the biggest political winners of 2025. He believes there will be a focus on austerity to identify waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal government, potentially leading to entitlement cuts.

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personRobert F. Kennedy Jr.

Considered a breakout independent third-party candidate in the US.

toolNATO

Discussed in the context of no soldiers losing their lives in the Russia-Ukraine conflict and aggressive posturing from the Trump administration.

companyVisa

Its transaction volume is compared to dollar-denominated stablecoin transaction volume, highlighting the latter's growth and potential to disrupt the payment duopoly.

personJeremy Allaire

Co-founder and CEO of Circle, the issuer of USDC. Mentioned as someone who offered to rebuild payment rails using US dollar stablecoins for a host's research product.

toolChatGPT

OpenAI's AI model, used as a benchmark for comparison with Google's Gemini Deep Research, which is deemed superior.

toolGoogle Cloud

Bought Sunday Ticket and is happy with it. Expected to buy more sports rights to leverage dynamic advertising.

toolLockheed Martin

Cited as an example of old defense and aerospace providers that will struggle in 2025.

companyPalantir Technologies

Mentioned as a company that will benefit from the shift towards tech-oriented defense spending, contrasting with traditional defense contractors.

companyMitsubishi

Mentioned as being involved in Nissan's alliance, and part of the auto industry needing consolidation.

companyByteDance

Its potential IPO or divestment of TikTok was a previous prediction by the host.

organizationThe Washington Post

Predicted to be sold by Jeff Bezos in 2025. Also mentioned as one of the Legacy Media Outlets trying to return to classic journalism.

toolSamsung

Mentioned as a potential third company to produce high bandwidth memory (HBM), depending on whether they 'get their act together'.

bookSuperman

A coming movie in James Gunn's DC Universe, highly anticipated.

media1923 (TV series)

The second season is the most anticipated media for Gavin Baker, comparing it to 'Game of Thrones'.

mediaLandman (TV series)

A TV series with Taylor Sheridan, currently being enjoyed by one of the hosts.

toolGoogle DeepMind

Its O1 and O3 models are discussed as examples of AI making rapid progress due to new scaling axes like reasoning.

toolUkraine

Anticipated to receive a very bad deal for Russia and Ukraine from a Trump administration, leading to a humiliating defeat for Putin.

mediaForce Majeure

A movie directed by Ruben Östlund, referenced by Chamath Palihapitiya.

personVladimir Putin

Predicted to be the biggest political loser of 2025, with China decoupling and Trump taking a tougher stance on Russia.

personKoch family

Predicted as political losers in 2024 due to the shift in Republican party control and donor influence, with their political investments essentially going to zero.

productG1 Humanoid Robot

Unitree's humanoid robot, priced at $16,000, capable of performing tasks in homes or factories.

organizationBRICS

Discussed in the context of creating their own currency, similar to how stablecoins could challenge the USD standard.

organizationStripe

A payment processing company, contrasted with the lower transaction costs offered by US dollar stablecoins.

organizationNetflix

Bought NFL games and is happy with them. Expected to buy more sports rights for dynamic advertising.

toolUber

Part of the on-demand economy, its stock was up significantly. Also a key player in autonomous delivery with Waymo, and a potential acquisition target for Tesla or Amazon.

toolSiri

Apple's virtual assistant, compared unfavorably to Google Gemini for its poor performance.

personLogan Paul

Allegedly fighting Conor McGregor in India for a large sum of money, viewed as a 'stunt'.

toolEpstein files

Declassified files related to Jeffrey Epstein, expected to be released by the Trump administration in 2025.

personArthur C. Clarke

His treatment of '2001: A Space Odyssey' is referenced in the discussion on why advanced alien civilizations would not physically travel.

companyJP Morgan Chase

Mentioned in a Gemini Deep Research report as having lower risk of insolvency or financial collapse compared to peers.

personGavin Baker

Guest on the podcast from Atreides Management, a crossover firm investing publicly and privately in consumer and tech from series A to mega-cap, managing roughly $4 billion.

personMarco Rubio

Listed as a notable Gen X appointment.

legislationCitizens United v. Federal Election Commission

A Supreme Court case that allowed for unlimited spending in elections, which the Koch family allegedly leveraged heavily.

softwareLarge Language Model (LLM)

Mentioned as a technology that could teach robots new skills.

personMichael Dell

CEO of Dell Technologies, mentioned as having participated in building xAI and being shocked by its rapid GPU deployment.

toolApple

Its stock was up 30% in 2024, but its AI (Apple Intelligence) is heavily criticized as performing poorly.

personLeBron James

Mentioned as having said the NBA has a big problem.

companyNissan

Signed an agreement to merge with Honda at the end of 2024, signaling consolidation in the traditional auto OEM industry.

organizationIntel

Expected to be involved in a significant business deal in 2025, hopefully one that benefits America.

toolApple Intelligence

Apple's AI offering, widely criticized by the hosts as being poor and disgraceful compared to Google Gemini.

personConor McGregor

Allegedly fighting Logan Paul in India for $250 million, viewed as a 'stunt' to bring tourists to India.

companyMicron Technology

One of two companies (with SK Hynix) capable of manufacturing high bandwidth memory (HBM), which is in high demand for GPUs and critical for AI compute.

personAlex Karp

CEO of Palantir, mentioned for his criticism of sales and marketing practices in the software industrial complex.

mediaDC Universe

James Gunn's DC Universe, with Superman coming out, is highly anticipated media.

bookJFK Files

Declassified files related to John F. Kennedy, expected to be released by the Trump administration in 2025.

softwareGoogle Ads

Google's advertising platform, which could dynamically create personalized ads for sports viewers, mitigating the loss of traditional pharma ads.

studyGoldman Sachs

Mentioned in a Gemini Deep Research report as having lower risk of insolvency or financial collapse compared to peers.

toolTexas

Amazon is reportedly doing drone deliveries there, and housing values/rent have gone down for two years.

personVivek Ramaswamy

Referred to as 'V fake Tuli', listed as an Elder Millennial.

personKeir Starmer

The current UK prime minister, alleged to have not prosecuted Pakistani Muslim men involved in a child rape scandal for fears of stoking Islamophobia.

productGo2 Robot

A robot from Unitree Robotics, priced at $1,600, with an API, LiDAR, and intelligent guidance systems. It can run payloads and navigate challenging terrain.

softwareFull Self-Driving (FSD)

Tesla's autonomous driving technology, believed to be functional today and on the verge of mainstream adoption.

toolGoogle

Praised for its comeback in AI and the Gemini Deep Research product. Seen as a major AI winner due to heavy investment and internal application of AI for earnings growth.

companyMicroStrategy

Criticized for trading at 2-4 times the book value of its Bitcoin holdings, deemed unsustainable.

toolAmazon Web Services (AWS)

Listed as a major cloud provider that will compete directly with OpenAI by offering compute resources and having internal AI services, potentially disadvantaging OpenAI.

companyMeituan

Chinese company providing food delivery via drones, demonstrating the advanced use of autonomous delivery in China.

personMike Tyson

His fight is mentioned as 'disgraceful' by the host, leading to speculation about whether it was staged.

personAnthony Demus

Referred to as 'Demus'. Won a Nobel Prize, linked to predictive models in AI-driven discovery in pharma and bioengineering, fulfilling a previous prediction.

mediaGladiator 2

A movie that was anticipated last year but was deemed 'mid'.

locationPanama Canal

Mentioned in a theory about how the pyramids might have been built, using water and channels for flotation.

movie2001: A Space Odyssey

Arthur C. Clarke's work, referenced in the discussion about advanced alien civilizations and physical travel.

companyWells Fargo

Identified by a Gemini Deep Research report as having the highest risk of insolvency or financial collapse among large US banks.

toolEurope

Starting to rearm, which will allow America to reallocate resources away from Europe and towards the Pacific.

toolGermany

The AfD party is predicted to win in 2025.

organizationIndia

Proposed location for a Logan Paul vs. Conor McGregor fight, intended to attract tourists.

personRuben Östlund

Director of several amazing movies, including 'Force Majeure', referenced by Chamath Palihapitiya.

personJD Vance

Listed as an Elder Millennial and expected to be part of the shift against pro-war neocons.

personMarine Le Pen

Predicted to win if there is a deadlock election in France.

personBenjamin Netanyahu

Predicted as a political loser in 2024 by one of the hosts.

toolGrok

An AI model, compared to ChatGPT and Claude, for which Google's deep research model is considered superior.

organizationBoston Consulting Group (BCG)

A management consulting firm, used to illustrate the quality and depth of reports generated by Google's Deep Research, comparing AI output to expensive human consulting work.

companyAnduril Industries

Mentioned as a company that will benefit from the shift towards tech-oriented defense spending, contrasting with traditional defense contractors.

toolMicrosoft

Perceived as having acquired OpenAI's source code and compute, no longer needing OpenAI, positioning it as a major competitor.

toolAzure

Microsoft's cloud computing service, from which buying compute puts a company at a disadvantage compared to internal services.

toolDoorDash

Part of the on-demand economy, its stock was up significantly. A potential acquisition target for Amazon or Tesla to create a 'super app' for delivery.

personKara Swisher

Mentioned as someone to whom The Washington Post could be sold, and as being upset about Legacy Media Outlets steering towards the middle.

toolAlibaba

Mentioned as a Chinese tech company that looks 'pretty cheap' with a decent multiple, potentially poised for a good run if macro conditions align.

softwareAthena.com

An investment by the host, mentioned as an example of efficiency through AI advancements in labor and outsourcing.

personIlya Sutskever

One of the original pioneers in AI, who gave a scary talk about models that reason being inherently unpredictable.

toolAndor Season 2

A Star Wars series, highly anticipated by the host.

organizationCNN

One of the Legacy Media Outlets steering towards the middle and trying to get back to classic journalism, causing internal chaos.

bookGame of Thrones

Used as a benchmark for compelling TV shows, comparing 1923 to it.

personTaylor Sheridan

The creator behind 'Landman' and other praised TV shows, identified as being 'in the zone'.

personBarack Obama

Mentioned for having deported over two million people, making him 'really tough on the border'.

companyBank of America

Mentioned in a Gemini Deep Research report as having lower risk of insolvency or financial collapse compared to peers.

organizationArgentina

Cited as an example where accelerating GDP growth under Peron did not benefit everyone equally, leading to socialist policies.

locationSouth Korea

Expected to receive resources reallocated from Europe by America.

organizationCanada

Justin Trudeau is predicted to lose massively to Pierre Poilievre in 2025.

locationUnited Kingdom

Discussed in relation to a child rape scandal and the potential fall of the Labour government, leading to Nigel Farage winning.

personJason Calacanis

Host of the All-In Podcast.

personElon Musk

A notable Gen X appointment and a new class of donor influencing Republican policy. Praised for building out xAI's infrastructure.

personPierre Poilievre

Predicted to massively defeat Justin Trudeau in Canada in 2025.

personNigel Farage

Predicted to win in the UK if the Labour government falls.

toolNVIDIA

Its GPUs are mentioned as driving the demand for compute, and the company is seen as a long-term winner due to AI growth.

personJensen Huang

Co-founder and CEO of NVIDIA, mentioned as having participated in building xAI and being shocked by its rapid GPU deployment.

companyMcKinsey

A management consulting firm, used to illustrate the quality and depth of reports generated by Google's Deep Research, comparing AI output to expensive human consulting work.

companyThe New York Times

Its stock was up, and it filed a lawsuit against OpenAI, fulfilling a previous prediction.

companyHonda

Signed an agreement to merge with Nissan at the end of 2024, signaling consolidation in the traditional auto OEM industry.

companyStellantis

Referred to as 'Stantis'. European auto OEM, whose future is questioned in the face of industry pressures.

companyZipline

An autonomous drone delivery company, invested in by Gavin Baker's firm, seen as the best way to deliver anything to suburban areas.

personJeff Bezos

Predicted to sell The Washington Post in 2025, after having bought it and stepped down from Amazon, and after a 'midlife crisis' phase.

mediaClone Wars

An amazing animated Star Wars series taking place during the prequels, recommended for watching with kids, with a prediction of a live-action series.

bookDiddy files

Declassified files related to Sean 'Diddy' Combs, expected to be released by the Trump administration in 2025.

companyCitigroup

Identified by a Gemini Deep Research report as having the highest risk of insolvency or financial collapse among large US banks due to recent net loss, lower Common Equity Tier 1 (CET1) ratio, and high exposure.

locationTaiwan

China's goal of reunification or invasion is discussed, with Europe's rearmament making it harder for China.

otherChina

Its role as a client state of Russia, its massive buildout of electricity, drones, robots, and autonomous vehicles are discussed. Chinese tech stocks are pitched as a best performing asset, contingent on a 'great deal' with the US.

companyAtreides Management

A crossover firm that invests publicly and privately in consumer and tech companies, ranging from Series A to mega-cap, managing approximately $4 billion.

personDonald Trump

Predicted to win centrists in 2024, to be tougher on Putin than expected, and lead to a deal bad for Russia and Ukraine. His administration is also predicted to release declassified files.

personJohn Bolton

Described by Trump as 'absolutely crazy' but useful in negotiations for creating a bellicose image.

supplementTether

A stablecoin mentioned in Congressional hearings for its alleged use in terrorism, sanctions evasion, and human trafficking.

supplementUSDC

A US dollar stablecoin, mentioned as a more efficient payment rail due to lower transaction costs.

organizationGartner

A research and advisory company, used to illustrate the quality and depth of reports generated by Google's Deep Research, comparing AI output to expensive human consulting work.

organizationNational Basketball Association (NBA)

Predicted as a business loser due to declining viewership, lack of rivalries, and eventual decrease in future TV deal values, though countered by the argument that big tech companies are happy with sports rights.

toolAmazon

Bought NFL games and is happy with them. Expected to buy more sports rights for dynamic advertising. Also mentioned as a potential acquirer of DoorDash or Uber.

toolTruth Social

Criticized for its $7 billion valuation despite only $4-5 million in revenue.

toolBYD

A Chinese car manufacturer producing cars cheaper than competitors with good full self-driving capabilities, making it a key global competitor.

productGoogle Pixel Fold 9

Google's foldable smartphone, mentioned as having Gemini working perfectly and outperforming Siri/Apple Intelligence.

mediaThe Three-Body Problem (TV series)

A TV series that was anticipated last year but one of the hosts didn't finish watching.

toolRussia

Described as a client state of China, predicted to face decoupling from China and a bad deal with Ukraine under Trump, leading to a humiliating defeat.

toolPolymarket

A prediction market platform where people can place wagers or investments on outcomes, used to track the podcast hosts' super predictions.

personJoe Biden

His cabinet's average age is compared to Trump's potential younger cabinet picks.

personJustin Trudeau

Predicted to lose massively to Pierre Poilievre in Canada in 2025.

toolTesla

Praised for its FSD (Full Self-Driving) technology, which is seen as crossing into mainstream adoption. Also a potential major AI winner and a key player in the autonomous vehicle space, with potential for partnerships or acquisitions in delivery.

toolOpenAI

Their new model, O3, is noted for its combination of reasoning and test-time compute. However, later predicted to be the biggest business loser, with its $57 billion valuation seen as a peak, and potential issues with its non-profit to for-profit transition and competition.

companyMastercard

Its duopoly with Visa is anticipated to be attacked by stablecoin usage.

toolXAI

Elon Musk's AI company, praised for its rapid build-out of 100,000 GPUs and positioned as a major AI winner. Expected to compete directly with OpenAI.

toolReddit

Its stock was up 24% in 2024, and it licensed data for AI training, fulfilling a previous prediction.

toolVolkswagen

European auto OEM, whose future is questioned in the face of industry pressures.

toolTikTok

Its potential divestment was a previous prediction, and its ban is currently halted by the Trump administration.

personBill Ackman

His successful use of credit default swaps during the COVID-19 crisis is referenced as an example of making significant money on an insurance policy.

bookLos Angeles Times

One of the Legacy Media Outlets steering towards the middle and trying to get back to classic journalism, causing internal chaos.

countryJapan

Expected to receive resources reallocated from Europe by America.

toolFrance

Marine Le Pen is predicted to win if there's a deadlock election.

personJoe Lonsdale

Mentioned for a technical term he uses to describe a third person's skiing technique.

personXi Jinping

His actions regarding Europe's rearmament and resource allocation away from Europe are discussed as a disaster for China's reunification goals with Taiwan. Predicted to begin decoupling from Putin.

toolBoeing

Cited as an example of old defense and aerospace providers facing 'failure at scale' and being too clunky and bureaucratic, due to space program failures and airplane business challenges.

companyRaytheon Technologies (RTX)

Cited as an example of old defense and aerospace providers that will struggle in 2025.

toolWaymo

Alphabet's autonomous driving technology, which has rapidly gained market share in San Francisco and is expanding to other cities. Predicted to be involved in a massive financing, IPO, or M&A deal.

companyLyft

Its market share in San Francisco has been significantly impacted by Waymo's entry.

personJake Paul

A figure to whom the website 'disgraziad.com' (a slang term for disgraceful) redirects, bought by the host Jason Calacanis after the Tyson fight.

companyLongtop Financial Technologies

Referenced as a past financial fraud from China that caused many investors to adopt a 'no China guideline' for investments.

company890 (venture firm)

Chamath's venture firm, an example of building next-generation AI businesses with significantly lower cost structures compared to traditional enterprise software companies.

mediaDay of the Jackal (TV series)

A TV series that Chamath loved.

toolS&P 500

Prediction market proposed for whether the 'Mag 8' representation in the S&P 500 shrinks below 30%.

personJuan Perón

Came to power in Argentina in the mid-1940s, a period of high GDP growth that still fueled socialist movements.

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