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Philosophy and the Good Life: A Conversation with Kieran Setiya (Episode #295)
Key Moments
Philosophy can guide a good life by addressing grief, regret, and meaning.
Key Insights
Philosophy's relevance to living well has diminished but can be revived by focusing on practical life questions.
Living well is distinct from mere happiness; it involves confronting reality, even unpleasant emotions like grief.
Grief is a complex emotion that, while painful, signifies the importance of a lost relationship and person.
The concept of 'no-self' in contemplative traditions offers a path to equanimity by dissolving the illusion of a central subject.
Understanding actions as 'telic' (goal-oriented) or 'atelic' (process-oriented) helps manage expectations and reduce frustration.
Reframing challenges and acknowledging biases toward the future are crucial for navigating life's difficulties.
REVIVING THE PRACTICAL PURPOSE OF PHILOSOPHY
The conversation highlights a perceived disconnect between modern academic philosophy and its historical aim of guiding individuals toward living a good life. Setiya argues that while philosophy has become more abstract and specialized, its core tools remain relevant for addressing practical life concerns like midlife crises, grief, loneliness, and failure. He aims to bridge this gap, reconnecting academic philosophy with the everyday pursuit of well-being, a goal that was once central to the discipline's identity.
LIVING WELL VERSUS BEING HAPPY
A key distinction is drawn between subjective happiness (feeling good) and living well (living a meaningful, authentic, and good life). Setiya uses thought experiments like the 'experience machine' and the reality of grief to illustrate that a life filled with pleasure but devoid of truth or genuine connection is not a life well-lived. Confronting difficult realities, including negative emotions, is seen as essential for true well-being, suggesting happiness is a byproduct, not the sole aim.
THE COMPLEXITY AND NECESSITY OF GRIEF
Grief is presented not merely as an undesirable emotional state to be eradicated, but as a significant and, at times, rational response to profound loss. While acknowledging the pain, Setiya suggests that grief signifies the importance of the person or relationship lost and that its absence would imply a diminished capacity for deep attachment. The challenge lies in determining when grief becomes maladaptive and the role of social rituals in navigating this process.
UNDERSTANDING THE 'NO-SELF' INSIGHT
The concept of 'no-self,' particularly as understood in Buddhist traditions, is explored as a potential remedy for psychological suffering. Setiya clarifies that this insight doesn't negate personal identity or continuity but targets the illusion of a central, ruling subject at the core of experience. By relinquishing this idea, one can experience a greater sense of spaciousness and unity, moving beyond the limitations imposed by the egoic perspective and leading to equanimity.
TELIC VERSUS ATELIC ACTIVITIES AND FUTURE BIAS
Setiya introduces the distinction between 'telic' activities (goal-oriented, with a clear end point) and 'atelic' activities (process-oriented, ongoing). Understanding this difference can help manage expectations and reduce frustration, particularly with atelic pursuits where satisfaction lies in the process itself. Coupled with this is the discussion of future bias and regret, emphasizing the importance of reframing our perspective on time and challenges to better navigate life's inherent imperfections.
OBJECTIVE MORAL TRUTHS AND PERSUASION
The conversation touches on the existence of objective moral truths, drawing parallels between ethical disagreements and scientific debates. Setiya argues that societal disagreement on moral issues does not negate the possibility of objective ethical truths, just as widespread disagreement on scientific matters doesn't invalidate scientific facts. The challenge lies not in the absence of truth, but in the difficulty of persuasion, which can be hindered by dogmatism or differing conceptual frameworks.
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Kieran Setiya argues that academic philosophy, often perceived as abstract, offers valuable tools and perspectives for navigating practical life challenges. It helps in understanding concepts like morality, agency, and well-being, which are crucial for a fulfilling existence.
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Professor of Philosophy at MIT and author of "Midlife: A Philosophical Guide" and "Life Is Hard: How Philosophy Can Help Us Find Our Way."
Host of the Making Sense podcast, discussing philosophy and its relevance to living a good life.
Psychologist friend of the speaker who suggests people are common sense dualists.
A publication where Kieran Setiya's writing has appeared.
A publication where Kieran Setiya's writing has appeared.
A publication where Kieran Setiya's writing has appeared.
Used as an example to illustrate how moral disagreement is sometimes used to argue against objective ethical truths.
A publication where Kieran Setiya's writing has appeared.
A publication where Kieran Setiya's writing has appeared.
Mentioned in the context of how striking philosophical arguments can be made, drawing parallels to scientific understanding and the underdetermination of theory by data.
An Indian philosophical tradition discussed in relation to the concept of 'no self'.
A branch of Buddhism discussed in relation to the concept of 'no self'.
Used as an analogy to highlight how experts in fields like geology or astronomy do not let disagreement dismiss the existence of objective truths.
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